Well, I can now cross that off my bucket list.

Jeff and I had the distinct pleasure of hanging out with Joanna Penn at last years Podcast Movement event. That was a big deal in and of itself. But we were recently interviewed by Joanna for an episode of the Creative Penn Podcast, her excellent, long-running show that focuses on the business side of publishing. We talked about releasing a book during a pandemic, writing as a couple, the business of the romance genre, and lots more. It was a lot of fun. You can listen for yourself right here.